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John Toperzer
Joined: 12.30.2006

Jun 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
John Toperzer: Penguins line breakdowns for 2011/12 Geno for Hart and Staal info Breakdown of the Penguins #1 line this past season as well as Geno winning the Hart and Staal rumors.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
If Staal wants 10 years, give it to him, 5.2 per, 5.5 max.

I wouldn't go any higher nor should he, his agent will of course.

Pens shouldn't trade him, they know him, he's only getting better, the only time you trade him is if he puts himself in front of the team and he has not done that so far.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
The Leafs don't want nor need Staal. We need an established first line center.

It's not worth debating.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
The Leafs don't want nor need Staal. We need an established first line center.

It's not worth debating.

- thomas81

Well the pens don't want any leaf players.....
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
The Leafs don't want nor need Staal. We need an established first line center.

It's not worth debating.

- thomas81



Staal will be going to the Leafs- book it
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
Well the pens don't want any leaf players.....
- nh4442


nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
The Leafs don't want nor need Staal. We need an established first line center.

It's not worth debating.

- thomas81


The Leafs are in some trouble if they are going all out on that, it costs big money to get one OR its going to take significant assets to acquire one, assets the Leafs aren't really rich in without chopping up their team.

Wonder if they've tried calling San Jose about Marleau, not the top dog, but hes available Im sure for the right price.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
Jr. Pens Blogger strikes again. Nice job Gunner.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:12 PM ET
The Leafs are in some trouble if they are going all out on that, it costs big money to get one OR its going to take significant assets to acquire one, assets the Leafs aren't really rich in without chopping up their team.

Wonder if they've tried calling San Jose about Marleau, not the top dog, but hes available Im sure for the right price.

- nelson911


The Leafs have what every team wants: a boatload of young quality defensemen.

I'm fairly confident they can make it happen without giving up on our depth.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 20 @ 1:16 PM ET
The Leafs have what every team wants: a boatload of young quality defensemen.

I'm fairly confident they can make it happen without giving up on our depth.

- thomas81

We feel the same way about our core of young defenseman. Hopefully they have enought to go get a number 1 center. Just not many available.
khanlari
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:17 PM ET
Lets set a leafs penguins trade scenario. Leafs want paul martin to play with phaneuf. Franson or gunnar + bozak?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 20 @ 1:20 PM ET
Lets set a leafs penguins trade scenario. Leafs want paul martin to play with phaneuf. Franson or gunnar + bozak?
- khanlari

We will just give him to you if you ask politely!
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jun 20 @ 1:22 PM ET

Thanks Gunner, well done. Staal is getting married Friday? To whom, may I ask? Anyone see this coming. All this Staal fantasy trade talk and no one mentioned the reality of marrige. Funny.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:26 PM ET
Thanks Gunner, well done. Staal is getting married Friday? To whom, may I ask? Anyone see this coming. All this Staal fantasy trade talk and no one mentioned the reality of marrige. Funny.
- powerhouse


Thanks.

To be fair John mentioned Staal's wedding.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:26 PM ET
Lets set a leafs penguins trade scenario. Leafs want paul martin to play with phaneuf. Franson or gunnar + bozak?
- khanlari


Probably take a lot less than that. However Martin can nix any trade I believe, that makes it tougher to move him.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 20 @ 1:28 PM ET
Never underestimate Shero's ability to resign someone.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:29 PM ET
Probably take a lot less than that. However Martin can nix any trade I believe, that makes it tougher to move him.
- Gunner Staal


Maybe he'll give in when he realizes the fans and possibly team personnel no longer want him cause he doesn't fit in.

*Edit *Everyone wanted 2010 Team USA Martin, even at the beginning of the first season with us, he was skating like Niedermayer, it was great, then things just changed.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:31 PM ET
Maybe he'll give in when he realizes the fans and possibly team personnel no longer want him cause he doesn't fit in.

*Edit *Everyone wanted 2010 Team USA Martin, even at the beginning of the first season with us, he was skating like Niedermayer, it was great, then things just changed.

- nelson911



He might get tired of playing in a system that isnt conducive to his playing style, who knows. His contract is cramping the Pens style more than his on ice play is.

Edit: I didnt want 2010 Team USA Martin, he missed most of the year with an arm injury haha.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:38 PM ET

Edit: I didnt want 2010 Team USA Martin, he missed most of the year with an arm injury haha.

- Gunner Staal


I thought he was quite solid for the 2 USA Olympic games that I watched. Never really saw him much in Jersey, or at least he never stood out.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:39 PM ET
I thought he was quite solid for the 2 USA Olympic games that I watched. Never really saw him much in Jersey, or at least he never stood out.
- nelson911


He didnt play in the Olympics.

http://devils.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=515844

Because of this, that bag of sh*t Ryan Whitney made the team and was able to make his mark on the team, by allowing Corey Perry to bash in a goal in the Gold Medal game while he just stood there like chump.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:40 PM ET
He didnt play in the Olympics.
- Gunner Staal


I was thinkin Rafalski, another small guy who could skate... Guess the whole happy ending clouded my memory

I guess its not as bad when its not my home team.. ask me Team Canada stuff, should be able to nail it
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:42 PM ET
I was thinkin Rafalski, another small guy who could skate... Guess the whole happy ending clouded my memory
- nelson911


Rafalski was incredible in the Olympics.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 20 @ 1:45 PM ET
Rafalski was incredible in the Olympics.
- Gunner Staal

We should have been coming home with the gold. The one time in my life I hated Crosby. It was for like 30 seconds then I was back to being his biggest fan and best friend.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:46 PM ET
We should have been coming home with the gold. The one time in my life I hated Crosby. It was for like 30 seconds then I was back to being his biggest fan and best friend.
- dbell646


USA severely underutilized Bobby Ryan IMO. Big big error.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 20 @ 1:49 PM ET
USA severely underutilized Bobby Ryan IMO. Big big error.
- Gunner Staal

I think your man love for Ryan is close to mine for Sid.
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